Comments on: Helium hood method now the way for assisted suicide http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/ Weblog of Derek Humphry, Founder of Hemlock Society Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:21:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Mister http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-10698 Mister Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:28:59 +0000 http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/#comment-10698 I have asked www.balloontime.com How long the lifetime of a Heliumcylinder is. I asked "If I do not open the tank and keep it from rusting, how long will the helium all stay inside?" This is the reaction I got today: "Good afternoon, Balloon Time has no “best-before-use” date. I personally have kept the cylinders in my home for use for over a year with no problem but that is my person experience. Regards, Katrina Ann Knee Pimenta Worthington Cylinders Customer Service Manager Regional Balloon Time sales Manager Phone: +351-256420444 Fax: +351-256420459 cell: +351-917545576 Rua da Granja 530 Vale de Cambra 3731-901 Portugal Visit our site! www.balloontime.com www.worthingtoncylinders.com After that I asked further. This is what she said then: "We do not have evidence for or against the helium staying inside the cylinder for a specific amount of time. Sorry I am not able to give you specific information on this. Best regards, Katrina Ann Knee Pimenta Worthington Cylinders" But mostly her words: "Balloon Time has no “best-before-use” date." are very interesting to me. I have asked http://www.balloontime.com
How long the lifetime of a Heliumcylinder is.
I asked “If I do not open the tank and keep it from rusting,
how long will the helium all stay inside?”

This is the reaction I got today:
“Good afternoon,
Balloon Time has no “best-before-use” date. I personally have kept the cylinders in my home for use for over a year with no problem but that is my person experience.
Regards,
Katrina Ann Knee Pimenta
Worthington Cylinders
Customer Service Manager
Regional Balloon Time sales Manager
Phone: +351-256420444
Fax: +351-256420459
cell: +351-917545576
Rua da Granja 530
Vale de Cambra 3731-901
Portugal
Visit our site!
http://www.balloontime.com
http://www.worthingtoncylinders.com

After that I asked further.
This is what she said then:

“We do not have evidence for or against the helium staying inside the cylinder for a specific amount of time. Sorry I am not able to give you specific information on this.
Best regards,
Katrina Ann Knee Pimenta
Worthington Cylinders”

But mostly her words:
“Balloon Time has no “best-before-use” date.”
are very interesting to me.

]]> By: ergo http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-10687 ergo Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:04:56 +0000 http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/#comment-10687 None of the sensations mentioned below. None of the sensations mentioned below.

]]> By: ergo http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-10682 ergo Thu, 14 Jan 2010 05:09:02 +0000 http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/#comment-10682 There is no 'gasping' or 'suffocating' if a competent, terminally or hopelessly ill adult is carrying out self-deliverance carefully in the proper method. Coma then death comes so fast there is no going back and there are no sensations of choking; it is brain death. Beware of wild stories put on the internet by strange individuals who were just playing at dying or trying to make trouble. There is no ‘gasping’ or ’suffocating’ if a competent, terminally or hopelessly ill adult is carrying out self-deliverance carefully in the proper method. Coma then death comes so fast there is no going back and there are no sensations of choking; it is brain death. Beware of wild stories put on the internet by strange individuals who were just playing at dying or trying to make trouble.

]]> By: ergo http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-10681 ergo Thu, 14 Jan 2010 05:02:55 +0000 http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/#comment-10681 Nonsense that a person could still be alive after 15/20 minutes if the self-deliverance via the helium hood method was being carried out properly, by the<a href="http://www.finalexit.org" rel="nofollow"> book. </a> I speak with knowledge of hundreds of cases by my colleagues throughout the right-to-die movement. It is best not to pay attention to wild, anonymous, individual claims on the internet; some are deliberate mis-information by opponents of euthanasia. Nonsense that a person could still be alive after 15/20 minutes if the self-deliverance via the helium hood method was being carried out properly, by the book. I speak with knowledge of hundreds of cases by my colleagues throughout the right-to-die movement. It is best not to pay attention to wild, anonymous, individual claims on the internet; some are deliberate mis-information by opponents of euthanasia.

]]> By: ergo http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-10678 ergo Thu, 14 Jan 2010 04:52:31 +0000 http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/#comment-10678 Obviously the person still alive after 15/20 minutes was not carrying out the self-deliverance carefully. Obviously the person still alive after 15/20 minutes was not carrying out the self-deliverance carefully.

]]> By: usamidori http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-10674 usamidori Fri, 08 Jan 2010 01:44:58 +0000 http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/#comment-10674 this was posted Wikipedia and i found it reassuring in terms of addressing my fear of the feeling of suffocation. A suicide bag, also known as an exit bag, is a device consisting of a large, clear plastic bag with a drawstring used to commit suicide. It is simple to make at home or can be bought over the internet. It is usually used in conjunction with an inert gas like helium or nitrogen, which prevents the panic, sense of suffocation and struggling even when unconscious (the hypercapnic alarm response) caused by the deprivation of oxygen in the presence of carbon dioxide. It also makes the method of death difficult to trace if the bag and gas canister are removed before the death is reported. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_bag this was posted Wikipedia and i found it reassuring in terms of addressing my fear of the feeling of suffocation.

A suicide bag, also known as an exit bag, is a device consisting of a large, clear plastic bag with a drawstring used to commit suicide. It is simple to make at home or can be bought over the internet. It is usually used in conjunction with an inert gas like helium or nitrogen, which prevents the panic, sense of suffocation and struggling even when unconscious (the hypercapnic alarm response) caused by the deprivation of oxygen in the presence of carbon dioxide. It also makes the method of death difficult to trace if the bag and gas canister are removed before the death is reported.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_bag

]]> By: ergo http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-10668 ergo Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:35:31 +0000 http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/#comment-10668 When the method is properly carried out, with perfect equipment, nobody can live more than 4-5 minutes inside the hood (plastic bag). There must have been a leak in the Batista case above. When the method is properly carried out, with perfect equipment, nobody can live more than 4-5 minutes inside the hood (plastic bag). There must have been a leak in the Batista case above.

]]> By: DMBatista http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-10644 DMBatista Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:14:52 +0000 http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/#comment-10644 My very ill friend successfully completed her final exit using the information from the Final Exit book about a week ago. The helium cannisters were the party pak ones purchased from a local store and she used a turkey roaster bag and the elastic element was an athletic headband. She did opt for the t-valve so that only 1 tube was taped inside the bag. Everything worked exactly as stated in the book. There was lots of planning. Two comments: 1. As she pulled the bag over her head she said it's cold.... assume she was referring to the helium. Might be something for people to know about to be prepared. 2. The helium ran out about 15-20 mins after she started, but before she was dead, so those present ( but not assisting) had to trust that was normal, that she had inhaled enough breaths of pure helium, and that this was normal and not to panic Another little point of detail. Otherwise I am so grateful she had this option as her pain had become unbearable. I am hoping laws change during my lifetime so end of life planning can be more inclusive of family and friends which helps eliminate uninformed fears about death. Thank you again for your work. My very ill friend successfully completed her final exit using the information from the Final Exit book about a week ago. The helium cannisters were the party pak ones purchased from a local store and she used a turkey roaster bag and the elastic element was an athletic headband. She did opt for the t-valve so that only 1 tube was taped inside the bag. Everything worked exactly as stated in the book. There was lots of planning. Two comments: 1. As she pulled the bag over her head she said it’s cold…. assume she was referring to the helium. Might be something for people to know about to be prepared. 2. The helium ran out about 15-20 mins after she started, but before she was dead, so those present ( but not assisting) had to trust that was normal, that she had inhaled enough breaths of pure helium, and that this was normal and not to panic Another little point of detail.
Otherwise I am so grateful she had this option as her pain had become unbearable. I am hoping laws change during my lifetime so end of life planning can be more inclusive of family and friends which helps eliminate uninformed fears about death.
Thank you again for your work.

]]> By: ergo http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-10640 ergo Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:59:26 +0000 http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/#comment-10640 A person can get the helium tanks from a toy store, a party store, and (at least in the USA) via Amazon.com The large industrial tanks would take a lot of strength to move around. A person can get the helium tanks from a toy store, a party store, and (at least in the USA) via Amazon.com
The large industrial tanks would take a lot of strength to move around.

]]> By: lucy1000 http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/comment-page-1/#comment-10631 lucy1000 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:32:18 +0000 http://assistedsuicide.org/blog/2007/12/09/helium-hood-method-now-the-way-for-assisted-suicide/#comment-10631 Thank you for your response. Does anyone from the UK know, whether industrial suppliers of helium will sell to the common man, or do they need some kind of license? I would be very grateful for this information thank you Thank you for your response.

Does anyone from the UK know, whether industrial suppliers of helium will sell to the common man, or do they need some kind of license?
I would be very grateful for this information

thank you

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